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BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 940
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If an HOA Board (in Texas) adopts new rules at an open meeting, and registers the rule change with the county, but there are no meeting minutes (and the Board comes straight out and says “we lost / don’t have the minutes”), are the new rules still valid?

Has anyone out there ever sued in Texas Justice Court (or elsewhere) about failure to record and store open meeting minutes?

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,044
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People are human and lose things. Data can be lost without having it backed up. People move and nobody goes to get the records the person held.
Realistically, these things happen.

In my previous Association the Secretary asked if they could thin out the files due to the volume. The Board agreed and we lost years of minutes because it was simply tossed. In my current Association we have a bylaw amendment recorded with the County that I have concerns of. We have no documentation of the meeting mentioned in document recorded at the courthouse. Would I have a hard time defending the amendment in court without minutes? Yes I would.
Would a court rule the amendment invalid? Unknown. Legal action would have to be brought by someone challenging the document to find out.
MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
We have documented my HOA board having secret meetings so I would also love to hear the answer to this question: "Has anyone out there ever sued in Texas Justice Court (or elsewhere) about failure to record and store open meeting minutes?"

(I am trying to figure out how to search Texas case law, haven't figured it out yet)
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By BillD16 on 04/14/2026, 2:37 AM

If an HOA Board (in Texas) adopts new rules at an open meeting, and registers the rule change with the county, but there are no meeting minutes (and the Board comes straight out and says “we lost / don’t have the minutes”), are the new rules still valid?

Has anyone out there ever sued in Texas Justice Court (or elsewhere) about failure to record and store open meeting minutes?

Bill

How long have these rules (on record with the county) been in existence? Has the board been enforcing these rules?

The problem with suing here is that the only remedy is to replace the minutes. Realistically this cannot be done. Best practices IMO: The board should vote on the rules again and put the vote in the minutes.

Caveat: A court could rely at least in part on what the board has done historically to justify enforcement of a rule going forward. If a board has done XYZ for a long time, and no one objected, some courts will say the "course of conduct" justifies the rule being enforceable, at least for the short term.
BillD16 (Texas)
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Posted By ElleN on 04/14/2026, 9:21 AM


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Posted By BillD16 on 04/14/2026

, 2:37 AM

If an HOA Board (in Texas) adopts new rules at an open meeting, and registers the rule change with the county, but there are no meeting minutes (and the Board comes straight out and says “we lost / don’t have the minutes”), are the new rules still valid?

Has anyone out there ever sued in Texas Justice Court (or elsewhere) about failure to record and store open meeting minutes?

Bill
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How long have these rules (on record with the county) been in existence? Has the board been enforcing these rules?

The problem with suing here is that the only remedy is to replace the minutes. Realistically this cannot be done. Best practices IMO: The board should vote on the rules again and put the vote in the minutes.

Caveat: A court could rely at least in part on what the board has done historically to justify enforcement of a rule going forward. If a board has done XYZ for a long time, and no one objected, some courts will say the "course of conduct" justifies the rule being enforceable, at least for the short term.

Thanks! As usual, I’m just curious. however the rules in question were adopted a bit more than a year ago, and they include a “code of conduct” and a Fine Schedule required by state law before an HOA may impose fines.

I guess I was considering the scenario that the HOA fines someone, and that person objects that the fine is unlawful because we have no minutes to show that we properly adopted a Fine Schedule. Previously, we went for over a year without a Fine Schedule (and levied no fines during that time). I guess I can see a judge siding with the HOA, assuming that the Board member who signed off on the rules was unlikely to have simply gone off and committed outright fraud over the matter.

On the other hand - isn’t that how fraud happens sometimes? Without minutes to back the action, someone with large cahones could alter the Rules and (I guess CCRs and ByLaws?) with a simple “really, we did it, your honor, I know we don’t have minutes or recordings and only 4 people attended the meeting and no-one remembers it happening. But I swear it did!” I don’t know how judges ponder sort of question, and I don’t know how they would decide. I know that we seem to have lost several sets of minutes in the past couple of years.

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By BillD16 on 04/14/2026, 1:41 PM


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I guess I was considering the scenario that the HOA fines someone, and that person objects that the fine is unlawful because we have no minutes to show that we properly adopted a Fine Schedule. Previously, we went for over a year without a Fine Schedule (and levied no fines during that time). I guess I can see a judge siding with the HOA, assuming that the Board member who signed off on the rules was unlikely to have simply gone off and committed outright fraud over the matter.

The Texas HOA statute TPC 209 seems crystal clear about minutes: "The board shall keep a record of each regular or special board meeting in the form of written minutes of the meeting."

Suppose the dispute you propose goes to court. Because of what TPC 209 says, I think the lack of minutes would certainly be in the favor of the owner who was fined.

Then again too many variables typically exist in any given legal dispute. I would not bet on who would win in court. All I know is that if I were on the board, I would not let this go to court. I would try to get a fine schedule voted on et cetera.

The board asks owners to follow the rules, bylaws, covenants statutes et cetera. The board should also follow the rules, bylaws, covenants, statutes et cetera.

For egregious conduct where safety was involved, I have seen a judge uphold a completely made-up, severe fine. Warnings had been given to the offending owner. The owner kept repeating the rules violation. A hearing was offered. Mistakes were made on all sides but in the end, the judge ruled that the HOA had constructively met its burden to abide by the covenants and bylaws and ruled for the HOA.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
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Actually, there's a new statute in texas that went into effect in 2025. The board can retroactively ratify a previous act in a new meeting .

Ratification of Defective Acts (2025 Amendments): Recent updates to the Texas Business Organizations Code (TBOC) clarify that for-profit and non-profit corporations can retroactively ratify transactions that were ineffective due to a failure to file a required instrument with the Texas Secretary of State.
"Mulligan" Law for Entities: Texas law allows governing bodies to "take a mulligan" (a do-over) to fix corporate mistakes and ratify defective acts with retroactive effect, provided they follow the procedures in Chapter 21, Subchapter R of the TBOC.
Approval of Documents in "Substantially Final Form": Under 2025 updates, a board may approve a plan or document in "substantially final form" and later ratify the final form, with that ratification applying retroactively to the date of the original approval.
HOA Board Actions: In the context of HOAs, while board decisions should be made correctly the first time, new Texas laws enable boards to fix procedural defects in past decisions. However, this does not allow boards to arbitrarily change rules retroactively if it unfairly impacts homeowners who relied on the old
BillD16 (Texas)
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Posted By LaskaS on 04/14/2026, 10:59 PM

Actually, there's a new statute in texas that went into effect in 2025. The board can retroactively ratify a previous act in a new meeting .

Ratification of Defective Acts (2025 Amendments): Recent updates to the Texas Business Organizations Code (TBOC) clarify that for-profit and non-profit corporations can retroactively ratify transactions that were ineffective due to a failure to file a required instrument with the Texas Secretary of State.
"Mulligan" Law for Entities: Texas law allows governing bodies to "take a mulligan" (a do-over) to fix corporate mistakes and ratify defective acts with retroactive effect, provided they follow the procedures in Chapter 21, Subchapter R of the TBOC.
Approval of Documents in "Substantially Final Form": Under 2025 updates, a board may approve a plan or document in "substantially final form" and later ratify the final form, with that ratification applying retroactively to the date of the original approval.
HOA Board Actions: In the context of HOAs, while board decisions should be made correctly the first time, new Texas laws enable boards to fix procedural defects in past decisions. However, this does not allow boards to arbitrarily change rules retroactively if it unfairly impacts homeowners who relied on the old

Thank you, that is very interesting. I’ll have to find the exact amendment and read it - is it *only* for “failing to file a required instrument with Texas SoS?

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By LaskaS on 04/14/2026, 9:59 PM

Actually, there's a new statute in texas that went into effect in 2025. The board can retroactively ratify a previous act in a new meeting .

Ratification of Defective Acts (2025 Amendments): Recent updates to the Texas Business Organizations Code (TBOC) clarify that for-profit and non-profit corporations can retroactively ratify transactions that were ineffective due to a failure to file a required instrument with the Texas Secretary of State.
"Mulligan" Law for Entities: Texas law allows governing bodies to "take a mulligan" (a do-over) to fix corporate mistakes and ratify defective acts with retroactive effect, provided they follow the procedures in Chapter 21, Subchapter R of the TBOC.
Approval of Documents in "Substantially Final Form": Under 2025 updates, a board may approve a plan or document in "substantially final form" and later ratify the final form, with that ratification applying retroactively to the date of the original approval.
HOA Board Actions: In the context of HOAs, while board decisions should be made correctly the first time, new Texas laws enable boards to fix procedural defects in past decisions. However, this does not allow boards to arbitrarily change rules retroactively if it unfairly impacts homeowners who relied on the old

What you cited applies solely to for-profit corporations.

HOAs and COAs are under BO 22 (not BO 21).
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
nope, it applies to non profits also
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By LaskaS on 04/15/2026, 8:49 PM

nope, it applies to non profits also

Anyone can read BO 21 and quickly see that it applies strictly and expressly to for-profit corporations.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
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sorry it was already in existence for non profits and condo's.. since 2019.
Effective September 1, 2019, HOAs and Non-Profit Corporations now have a new tool to fix mistakes in corporate procedure, such as voting, or action taken without authorization—saving HOAs and Non-Profit Corporations from costly litigation arising from such mistakes. in order to fix the defective act, the board (or the members, when the Declaration provides for action by the members) simply need to adopt a resolution stating: (1) the defective corporate act or acts to be ratified; (2) the date of each defective corporate act; (3) the nature of the failure of authorization with respect to each defective corporate act to be ratified; and (4) that the board of directors approves the ratification of the defective corporate act or acts. The quorum and voting requirements for the resolution are the same as the quorum and voting requirements applicable at the time of the adoption of the resolutions for the defective corporate act proposed to be ratified.
MinuteM1 (Florida)
Posts: 4
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Excellent question, Bill. Texas Property Code § 209.003 is crystal clear: "The board shall keep a record of each regular or special board meeting in the form of written minutes of the meeting." This requirement is non-negotiable for HOAs.

Here's the practical issue: without minutes, you have no contemporaneous evidence of what was actually voted on, what quorum was present, or what the board's rationale was. A court could absolutely find the rules invalid if challenged—an owner sued over a fine would have strong grounds arguing the board violated statutory requirements.

The good news? Texas law gives boards a remedy. Under § 209.0061 (added in 2019), boards can retroactively ratify defective corporate acts. If you're missing minutes from a meeting where rules were adopted, you can:

1. **Call a meeting** and vote to ratify the previous rule adoption
2. **Document the ratification** in current meeting minutes with the specific date and nature of the original action
3. **Keep those minutes** (multiple copies, backed up digitally)

This protects the rules going forward. However, it doesn't erase the statutory violation that already occurred—but it makes the rules defensible if challenged on enforcement.

Bottom line: **Going forward**, establish a backup system for minutes (secretary + board president copies + digital backup). For the rules already adopted without minutes, schedule a ratification vote as soon as your bylaws allow. Don't let this fester—if an owner challenges a fine based on missing minutes, you'll be defending in court instead of having a clear paper trail.

The Texas Apartment Association and your state HOA legislative resources have templates for ratification resolutions that meet § 209.0061 requirements.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By MinuteM1 on 04/24/2026, 4:16 AM

The good news? Texas law gives boards a remedy. Under § 209.0061 (added in 2019), boards can retroactively ratify defective corporate acts. If you're missing minutes from a meeting where rules were adopted, you can:

1. **Call a meeting** and vote to ratify the previous rule adoption
2. **Document the ratification** in current meeting minutes with the specific date and nature of the original action
3. **Keep those minutes** (multiple copies, backed up digitally)

This is not in TPC 209.0061.

Did you use AI to get this incorrect citation?
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By MinuteM1 on 04/24/2026, 4:16 AM

Texas Property Code § 209.003 is crystal clear: "The board shall keep a record of each regular or special board meeting in the form of written minutes of the meeting." This requirement is non-negotiable for HOAs.

The citation to 209.003 above is also incorrect.

AI citations should always be double checked.
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 940
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Posted By ElleN on 04/24/2026, 10:34 AM


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Posted By MinuteM1 on 04/24/2026

, 4:16 AM

Texas Property Code § 209.003 is crystal clear: "The board shall keep a record of each regular or special board meeting in the form of written minutes of the meeting." This requirement is non-negotiable for HOAs.
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The citation to 209.003 above is also incorrect.

AI citations should always be double checked.

ElleN is (as usual) correct, re both 209.003 and 209.0061 - they have nothing whatsoever to do with the question. I'm not certain how MinuteM1 obtained their information. Given that these threads may be searched in the future by people seeking HOA-related information, it is a good thing to mark this kind of information as incorrect, and as ElleN says: "AI citations should be checked". I'll take it a step further[1]: "*All* citations should be checked before relying upon them".

(Thanks ElleN!)

[1] not that I plan to make a habit out of amplifying ElleN's statements.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”

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