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MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
Hi I'm in a Texas condo HOA. We have an awful board that has been using the "no quorum" "board can appoint" loopholes to avoid elections for years. And they have been treating people awful.

So we made a group and we have 3 candidates ready to serve.

We read in our bylaws "Removal. A Director may be removed for cause by a vote of Members holding two-thirds (2/3) of the total undivided ownership of the Common Elements."

Need TEXAS specific advice. Can we do this without a lawyer? We don't have $$. We are thinking to just gather signatures and when we get to 2/3rds demand that they step down.

Please help us understand the correct, smart effective way to do this.

Thanks!
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
Posted:
MrTexasS1,

If you have 2/3rds of owners ready to remove these directors, why can't you all achieve a quorum at the regular annual meeting and then vote the bums out?

In general nationwide many HOA/COA owners fail to remove directors at special meetings because the owners do not know how to dot all the legal i's and cross all the legal t's. Remember that "possession is 9/10ths of the law." Here the latter means that these directors hold a lot of financial and other powers (including using the HOA attorney against dissidents).

By contrast at a regular annual meeting, it is much harder for the incumbent directors to suppress the dissidents.

Do you know whether your condo is under Chapter 81 (pre-1994 condos) or Chapter 82 (post Dec 31, 1993 condos)?
MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
Our condo is under chapter 81, and a few items in 82 apply to condos under 81.

We do NOT have 2/3rd ready to vote out. We have a small group that wants to persuade 2/3rd to vote out the current board. Next annual meeting is in January and we want to take action now rather than wait until January.

This small dissident group, let's for fun assume we accomplish the very hard thing (maybe impossible) of getting 2/3rd to agree to boot the current directors.

Our bylaws say "Removal. A Director may be removed for cause by a vote of Members holding two-thirds (2/3) of the total undivided ownership of the Common Elements." How do we make this vote legally binding? Has anyone actually done this?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,961
Posted:
Is there anything else in your bylaws about removing board members and special homeowner meetings? Usually, homeowners have to present a petition to hold a special meeting - in this case, it would be to discuss a recall of the board. At that meeting, you'd vote to remove them and I suspect that's where that 2/3rds percentage comes in.

When it comes to removing a board member (or the whole crew), it's important that this is done according to the documents because if you don't, the people who get sacked may get their own attorney and sue to set aside the whole mess - and they might win. Take a good look at your documents first - although you don't need an attorney, if people are confused about what the documents say, it doesn't hurt to have one look it over. If you're part of a small group that wants to pursue this, pass the hat and get a referral from the bar association. If the documents have provisions for a special homeowners meeting, use that to compel the board to explain themselves. If they ignore you or tell you to go play in traffic, you may need the attorney to send them a nastygram. This is a meeting where you need as many people as possible to show up, so prepare to send letters and knock on doors to make your case.

In case you haven't noticed, these sorts of things can lead to lots of chaos and doesn't happen overnight, so brace yourself. If you succeed, you'll need a new group ready to step up (yes, you may have to be among them). There are old conversations on this website about recalling boards - read a few to see what might work and avoid, but bring your questions back to this conversation so you can get updated information. Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,044
Posted:
An easier answer would be to start talking to people, obtain proxies and vote the Board out at the next election.
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
"An easier answer would be to start talking to people, obtain proxies and vote the Board out at the next election."

Tim we already tried that. The board sent out the meeting notice as stealthily as possible - buried in a long boring letter by USPS. They didn't put up any signs or send any emails- even though they use our emails for our accounts. So a lot of people didn't know about it. My group tried very hard to tell people about the meeting. Because of my grou's efforts we had a much larger turnout than normal but still did not achieve quorum. Since quorum was not achieved, the board announced they would not open the meeting and there would be no election. Since that time they have not posted anything about decisions or meetings of the board. We can only guess who they appointed to fill the empty seats. No notifications of meetings, nothing. Radio silence. They also never delivered the audit required by bylaws and state law. And they have been doing other things that are very bad.

Any suggestions are welcome. Our idea is to try to vote them out. Per ShellaH's advice up there we will be reading and re-reading our by-laws very carefully and trying to figure out how to follow to the letter.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH on 04/13/2026, 7:36 AM

Is there anything else in your bylaws about removing board members and special homeowner meetings? Usually, homeowners have to present a petition to hold a special meeting - in this case, it would be to discuss a recall of the board. At that meeting, you'd vote to remove them and I suspect that's where that 2/3rds percentage comes in.

When it comes to removing a board member (or the whole crew), it's important that this is done according to the documents because if you don't, the people who get sacked may get their own attorney and sue to set aside the whole mess - and they might win.

Undoubtedly it is a board majority that is angering this group of owners. In which case the board majority effectively already has its own attorney. The worst part: The owners en masse pay for this attorney.

From everything the OP related, I believe the best and least expensive approach will be to try to oust the disliked directors at the next, regular election, using an attorney as needed to make sure election rules are followed.
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
oh I just thought of a great idea. Something like a gofundme to raise funds to hire an attorney
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
dont bother with a go fund me. You don't need a lawyer to do this. Here's what i want to know, when do your documents call for the annual meeting to occur.

The annual meeting is the easiest to remove a board member. outside an annual meeting, it usually requires
1. a petition signed by specific (documents will state this) percentage of owners to sign the petition to call a special meeting for the purpose of removing an board member. then the petition is presented to the board(they will try and reject it). then you would have to file a suit to demand a special meeting.
At the annual election, to remove a board member. it's much easier, no petition, no notice. But you do have to have 51% of owners in person or by proxie agreeing to remove those board members.
MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
Our next annual meeting is supposed to be in January 2027

Our bylaws say 2/3rds are required to remove a director and 40% are required to call a special meeting.

Texas Business Organization 22.155 says 10% of members can demand a special meeting.

The board and management company are behaving in such a way it's really easy to persuade people to join us or become proxy signers. Our little group has no way to prove if they are helping themselves to the money or not because they refused to let us examine the records and have not provided an audit. The management company treats unit owners disrespectfully, extremely rude on every interaction. The rule enforcement is erratic and mean spirited. The board president talked down to everyone in the last not-an-annual-meeting. Maintenance is not being done reliably. I am very sad that people would behave like this.

My no-lawyer idea is to generate proxies in the same style as the proxies the board sent out for the last annual meeting. Except these proxies are for a special meeting with the date to be determined as soon as we have 2/3rds signed the proxies. The meeting agenda will be on the proxy form. Then start notifying unit owners of their rights under Texas Law to open meetings, audits, and that permits for structural work are required.

Even if we fail to get 2/3rds, these moves are likely to increase our group strength and influence. Last year it was just two of us. Right now there's six. There's about another 10 who agree with us and are reliable proxy signers. Try to keep the group going.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
Posted:
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Posted By MrTexaS1 on 04/15/2026, 7:28 AM

Even if we fail to get 2/3rds, these moves are likely to increase our group strength and influence. Last year it was just two of us. Right now there's six. There's about another 10 who agree with us and are reliable proxy signers.

I think your observation is important. I agree with it.

Many here can relate how an effort to displace a rogu-ish board took more than one election cycle.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
you need 40% of owners to sign a petition to call a special meeting. That's the first hurdle. If you get that petition to call a special meeting, the board is required to call the meeting. for the special recall meeting, from what you've said, it sounds like you need 2/3 of all owners to sign a proxie or show up to vote at the special meeting.. it's a lot of work. ,,, fyi, your bylaw percentage required defined what the percentage needed will be. TBOC percentage sets the minimum, but association documents can andoften are set higher requirements.
MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
Thanks Laska this is great that you explained our bylaws higher threshold holds.

I forgot to note a quorum for us is 50%. Really no point of doing anything at all without a quorum.
40% to demand a meeting
50% = quorum
67% required to remove

and it's a bit complicated because it goes by sq feet, so need to have a margin just to be sure it counts.

I will draw up proxies based on the same way they did it, and we can hold them until we get 40%, at which time we have option to demand a meeting, but probably best to keep holding them until we have 2/3rd's vote signed to us for removal. And NOT tell the board how many proxies votes we have let them guess. I'm sure they will tremble with fear.

I think I can set the proxies up in an online form so people can sign online. And we can easily print some too.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By LaskaS on 04/15/2026, 9:10 PM

fyi, your bylaw percentage required defined what the percentage needed will be. TBOC percentage sets the minimum, but association documents can andoften are set higher requirements.

I disagree. Texas's nonprofit corporation statute (BO 22) has several sections that state 'Unless the bylaws provide otherwise... '

BO 22.155 has no such qualifier. Per BO 22.155, legally only one-tenth of owners are needed to call a special meeting of the owners.

Of course, and as I noted earlier, possession is 9/10ths of the law. The Board has much of the resources to call a special meeting. If the board does not want to call a special meeting, then MrTexasS1 and his fellow interested owners will have to fight the board, preferably with an attorney.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
the rule comes from Texas condominium law 81 and applicable sections of 82. not tboc
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 04/15/2026, 10:07 PM

the rule comes from Texas condominium law 81 and applicable sections of 82. not tboc

You are the one who asserted that the bylaws Trump TBOC re the number needed to call a special meeting.

On the other hand you are right to bring up the Condo Acts (Chapters yada 81 and 82). Section 82.108 applies to all condos, regardless of the year the Declaration was recorded.

In statutory construction, when one statute is more apposite than another, the more apposite statute controls.

From 82.108:
"Unless the declaration provides otherwise, special meetings of the association may be called by the president, a majority of the board, or unit owners having at least 20 percent of the votes in the association."

If the declaration is silent, then the magic number is 20%.

Still the bigger hurdle is getting the board to agree.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
well, legally, the gathering of a petition means the board must call a meeting. But in practice, it doesn't always work that way. But the declaration tells the board what to do not the other way around.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
tim,, you do not draw up proxies.. you create a petition to call a special meeting.. once you get the petition, you present it to the board secretary and legally they are reaquired to call a special meeting with a certain ammount of time. (usually within 30 days. no less than 10 but check your documents).. once you get the petition.. and the special meeting is called.. THATS WHEN YOU CREATE PROXIES and get signatures. Be careful, if the board is out to trip up your efforts.. Proxies need to be very specific.. they need to state the date and time of the meeting, and owner name and signature and designated proxy, use chat gpt and after the give you an mockup,, tell chat gpt to stress test their result.. ask them for a valid proxie for a texas condominium association special meeting of owners for the purposeo recalling a board members.. Remember, in general, you collect get proxies for the specail meeting of owners after you turn in the petition to call a special meeting and the board schedules it. Now this is the way it's supposed to work. YMMV. First, before you start this process, have you requested the financials and documents you are seeking in writing in accordance with 82. ?
MrTexaS1 (Texas)
Posts: 25
Posted:
Laska this is getting to the heart of my question "Can we do this without a lawyer?"

Why is the board the only party allowed to draw up proxies? I see nothing in my bylaws that says "only the board can organize a vote" or "only the board can create proxies". There isn't even any instructions as to what a proxy is.

Where can I verify and learn more about these things you said about the requirements of a proxy form and only the board can do it?

What if a board was stealing money and refusing to cooperate on elections and meetings? Why should a criminal board be the only party allowed to draw up proxies?
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,289
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Posted By MrTexaS1 on 04/16/2026, 8:47 AM

Why is the board the only party allowed to draw up proxies?

Who said otherwise?

Either way, if a Board resists this idea, and since possession is 9/10ths of the law, dissident owners facing a rogue board may be stuck going to court or at least threatening same.

Sometimes a threat of legal action will force the HOA to report the threat to the insurer. Then the insurer will involve a lawyer. Then the lawyer might take more steps to get the board to follow the law. Or the lawyer may help the board dig into its position more.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,961
Posted:
Personally I wouldn't rely on proxies- what you need are bodies to actually show up to this meeting and cast their vote IN PERSON. Hopefully enough show up to get the 2/3rd majority you need to get these people gone. I get why proxies are used, but I've read too many conversations on this website about their wording, who collects them, what happens if you turn it in and then decide to show up, etc. Some of this is due to people not bothering to read the darned thing to understand what it will do.

If your group wants to vote these folks out by waiting fir the n ext annual meeting, that's fine, but you'll have to do the hard work by (1) educating people on the issues, (2) putting together a slate of people to vote for and (3) actually voting by showing up and casting ballots ya damned self.

You can also educate people on what proxies are - it's their responsibility to read it before completing and signing. To wit -in my community, you can designate someone to attend and vote on your behalf or the board president will vote on your behalf. You can write the name(s) of the people to vote for or authorize the president to cast it as he/she chooses (yes, that's how some people manage to get re elected over and over)

You don't understand it, ask someone. You don't want the president to decide- designate someone who will do as you ask. Don't trust the proxy will be used as you want, even though you specified everything? Better turn off the TV and show up at that meeting yourself.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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